In one of two blockbuster interviews conducted by Alex Jones this week, Steve Kirsch joined InfoWars to discuss how the COVID hoax is falling apart amid Fauci’s announcement of his resignation from NIAID.

Last week, Steve made broadcasting history when he told Fox News’ Brian Kilmeade that, “What I found was that hundreds of thousands of Americans have been killed by this vaxxine and millions have been injured and clearly, you are more likely to be injured or dead from the vaxxine than if you were unvaxxinated.”

Brian was quick to say on-air that Fox can’t “verify” Steve’s claims. Steve went ahead and backed-up his claims on his Substack, where he called-out Brian, saying, “You mean you ‘can’t’ because Fox won’t let you, right?”

Steve tells Alex here that Brian “Was actually telling people the truth, because Fox News has contractual commitments that don’t allow them to speak poorly about the vaxxines. So they can’t say anything antivax on Fox News and so they can’t verify my numbers, because if they did, they would have to be admitting that the vaxxines are not safe and not effective.”

Steve says, “The White House has spent a billion dollars influencing media and giving money to media to promote these vaxxines. And we don’t know what the contracts say, it’s pretty clear there was no interest at Fox in validating the numbers.

“Now, if what I said is true and we really have killed hundreds of thousands of people, you would think that Fox News would be interested in covering that and looking at my data.

“So after the interview, I talked to the producer and I said, ‘Hey, would you like to see the data?’ And there was no response. They don’t want to see the data.”

Steve has run many surveys and he has consistently found that it is the vaxxinated who are getting sick and it is the hospital protocols that are killing people.

Alex asks Steve what he thinks is going on, with Deborah Birx saying that she never thought the vaxxine would help and with Fauci resigning.

Steve thinks the wheels are falling off the hoax, saying, “This is the greatest killer of all time. This is unprecedented. The numbers here are so large…this is killing people at a much higher rate than heart disease is. It’s the new Number One killer and the CDC is silent on all of this.”

Steve says he approached Carol Crawford at the CDC, who’s in charge of “stopping misinformation spreaders” and he told her, he’d gather the top 20 “misinformation spreaders” in the same room and she could present her hot topics and they could present theirs and they could have a nice, civil discussion.

He says, “She’s not interested in that, which tells me she’s not interested in stopping the ‘misinformation-spreading’ because she knows damned well we’re not talking misinformation, here. It would be exposed for them to go on-camera. This is why we’re being ignored by the FDA, the CDC, the NIH…

“We can look at the death tolls and the injury tolls ten different ways and we’ll get the same results.”

On his Substack, Steve wrote about being accused of making false statements by Media Matters, an organization of which he was an original donor. He was then de-platformed from their website’s comment section after he offered to provide them with the data so they could verify his claims.

He wrote, “It appears that nobody in the world is confident that I am lying because I’ve offered up to $1M to anyone who thinks they can challenge me and there are no acceptances of any of my 15 debate offers.”

He tells Alex here, “Donald Trump was the one who created the vaccine in the first place. If he comes out with the truth about the vaxxine, Boy, that’s gonna wake up a lot of people…the truth always comes out…You always want to be on the right side of history and if you’re Trump, you like to never be wrong. He doesn’t like to admit he’s wrong – but he has to, in this case.

“But the point is that if he does that, then he becomes on he right side of history and that forces the Democrats to dig in deeper, defending the vaxxine, which makes them lose bigger and bigger and bigger, over time, because the truth does come out and it’s amazing to me that these people who have left the CDC and the FDA, Boy, they don’t want to talk to anyone…because they don’t want to incriminate themselves for participating in this.”

The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) is a web-based vaccine adverse event self-reporting system monitored by the FDA that is widely thought to be inaccurate and that it may only reflect as little as 1/100th of the actual numbers.

Kirsch conservatively estimates that the underreporting to VAERS is by a factor of 41 and that VAERS is only capturing around 2% of the actual adverse events.

To get the real numbers, he says you have to multiply the official VAERS numbers by 41 – and when you do that, you get over half a million deaths in the US.

But Steve appears to be referring to an earlier VAERS report, because VAERS’ current COVID Vaccine Reported Deaths is at 30,347, which multiplied by 41 is over 1.2 million deaths, which is a conservative estimate. Many people think it’s over twice that amount.

Up next, Steve recently wrote, “I’ll be posting an interview where people will go on the record about illegal falsification of medical records and death certificates. Did you know that in America today, if you died shortly after vaccination, even when there is a VAERS report, that your medical records will not reflect this and it will be omitted from your death certificate as well?”

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