Gibson, a devout Catholic, unleashed scathing criticism of the Catholic Church and the Vatican, accusing its leadership of being overrun by predators and child abusers. He also claimed that the Church is no longer following the teachings of Christ but has been taken over by what he calls a “counterfeit parallel church” running an entirely different, evil religion.

During the podcast, Gibson didn’t hold back. He suggested that Pope Francis, rather than acting as the spiritual leader of the Catholic Church, is complicit with a global network of child abuse within the Church. “The Church was instituted by Christ,” Gibson said, “but it’s not what it purports to be anymore.”

Gibson’s claims echo those of Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, a former Vatican official who has repeatedly accused the Church hierarchy of moral corruption.

Viganò has warned of a “counterfeit church” that has supplanted Catholicism with a twisted ideology. Gibson appears to fully agree, describing the Vatican as a hub of predators who have hijacked the faith and turned it into something unrecognizable.

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This isn’t the first time Gibson has made explosive accusations about powerful institutions. He has long been outspoken about the dark underbelly of Hollywood, describing it as a “den of pedophiles” in multiple interviews.

His remarks on The Joe Rogan Experience suggest he sees a disturbing parallel between the entertainment industry and the Vatican, both of which he believes are deeply corrupted by abuse and cover-ups.

Joe Rogan, known for giving guests a platform to discuss controversial topics, pressed Gibson on his beliefs but allowed the actor to freely voice his concerns about the state of the Church and the Vatican.

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The interview also underscores Gibson’s ongoing disillusionment with modern institutions, from Hollywood to the Church.

For the director of The Passion of the Christ, this is not just a battle over faith but over morality itself. As Gibson sees it, the Vatican has been infiltrated by forces seeking to destroy the very essence of Catholicism.